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Cookbook [message #2406] Wed, 12 November 2008 11:03 Go to next message
BinaryKitten
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Hi, there has been the idea/concept of a PHPWomen Cookbook being produced. Being Silly thing that I am I volunteered to collate and produce it.

- So here's the outline -


Concept:
You read the book 1 way and it will all be PHP Recipes. Flip the book over and it will all be culinary recipes for.

Costs:
Apart from Time needed to collate and make sure the book is in an appropriate format for both eBook and paperback printing, the actual book to have put into print will cost £200 (UKGBP) This covers the ISBN registration, the print setup and various other aspects too. Add on top of this an Annual Registration fee of £20 (UKGBP) to maintain the book on the list of available books, though this won't be required until the 11 month anniversary of the book's publication.

What Else is needed:
The nice idea would be something like "Chocolate chip $_COOKIES" as a culinary recipe and then match it up with something to do with $_COOKIE usage and best practice etc. But in general any recipes we can use, will be gratefully received.

What do you think?
Do you think that we can get this off the ground and in print?
Who is willing to place recipes for the book?
Donations to get the book into print maybe?

Any ideas will be gratefully received.

[Updated on: Wed, 12 November 2008 11:05]

Re: Cookbook [message #2427 is a reply to message #2406 ] Tue, 18 November 2008 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
j.rf  is currently offline j.rf
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Hi Kat,

That sounds like a hilarious concept and is therefore an excellent idea !!!!
I love it already.

Would love to contribute, but am in a bit of a time crunch at the moment.
Let say you can put me down for some i8n flavouring recipes, but I won't be able to get to them for another couple of months...

Hope that helps anyhow.

Grz, Juliette
Re: Cookbook [message #2440 is a reply to message #2406 ] Tue, 25 November 2008 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
deshymers  is currently offline deshymers
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How many recipes do you think will be needed? Also what categories would be included? I'm assuming it would be the standard (breakfast, lunch, dinner, dessert), or would it be something different.

How did you want to collect and organize the data, did you want to put up a wiki to manage it all or do you have something else in mind for that?

Re: Cookbook [message #2441 is a reply to message #2440 ] Tue, 25 November 2008 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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at the moment i will use this thread to collect the ideas.. apart from that not sure.. Don't have the chance/time really to set up anything fancy for it..
Re: Cookbook [message #2442 is a reply to message #2406 ] Tue, 25 November 2008 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shiflett  is currently offline shiflett
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Count me in for contributing. I can write recipes for anything to do with HTTP (sessions, cookies, GET versus POST, etc.) or security (XSS, CSRF, etc.).
Re: Cookbook [message #2443 is a reply to message #2406 ] Tue, 25 November 2008 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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Ok we have received pledges for 3/4 of the costs to put the book into print once it is done.. All we need is someone to step up with the final £30 .. or part of..

If you want to pledge a financial donation please do 1 of the following:
  • for Anonymous donations, Contact me Via privmsg here or on IRC (BinaryKitten)
  • for non Anonymous donations leave a message


All amounts are welcome Smile and thanks to the current donators... Big HUGS!

[Updated on: Tue, 25 November 2008 17:51]

Re: Cookbook [message #2487 is a reply to message #2406 ] Sat, 03 January 2009 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cereal_girl  is currently offline cereal_girl
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I think it's a great idea!
Maybe I can put something together. Not sure just what, but I'm leaning towards something lean, clean, and healthy Smile
Re: Cookbook [message #2548 is a reply to message #2406 ] Thu, 12 February 2009 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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Now we are down to the Final Furlong.
We only need another £15 before we have the total needed to get the ball rolling..

I guess I should start doing a call for papers? .. at least Requesting Topics for inclusion..

Anyone out there willing to contribute to the book via an Article/tutorial/what not?
Re: Cookbook [message #2550 is a reply to message #2406 ] Thu, 12 February 2009 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jakyra  is currently offline jakyra
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Depending on the timing I can submit some recipes. I'm primarily a baker so they would be along that line.

I'd like to submit a php cookbook kind of thing, but I'm fairly intimidated. I'm really just starting to feel like I'm getting the hang of all of this.

Sorry, no $ to contribute.

Sounds fun!
Re: Cookbook [message #2551 is a reply to message #2406 ] Thu, 12 February 2009 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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all contributions very welcome.. Send me a private message on here or grab me on IRC for my email address Laughing
Re: Cookbook [message #2552 is a reply to message #2406 ] Thu, 12 February 2009 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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WE DID IT.


We finally have all the donations we need to pay for the book.

All we need now is Content, content, content.
Re: Cookbook [message #2553 is a reply to message #2552 ] Fri, 13 February 2009 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fearfox  is currently offline fearfox
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Sounds like a cool idea! Smile

I think cookie = $_COOKIE is the most obvious match, but here's some more food analogies I can think of (ok, I'm pulling them out of thin air, so bare with me)

- web services / mashups = fusion cooking
- spaghetti coding ( Very Happy )
- syntactic sugar
- presentation / temPlate (get it? Very Happy )
- validation = ... wash your veggies real well? (BOO)


Another idea to really tie it all together is to go through the whole process of writing an application, from selecting tools, db schema, architecture, to completion. And at the same time go through the whole multiple-course meal.

The application doesn't have to be complex, maybe a recipe database? Smile Tied in with some social service to illustrate web services. And then have the real site to go with the book?

OK, going crazy here now Smile

Re: Cookbook [message #2554 is a reply to message #2406 ] Fri, 13 February 2009 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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An update on what we require:

  • Food Recipes
  • PHP Recipes
  • MySQL Recipes
  • Best Practice Recipes


You don't need to do both sides and or match them up, We will do that once we have a good few of them.

Please Do post your ideas here in attachment to the thread, in the thread, around the thread.. linked to the thread.. anywhere we can get to it, just let us know.

If you want to keep yourself anonymous, you can submit via Private message to me.

Re: Cookbook [message #2837 is a reply to message #2554 ] Tue, 22 September 2009 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
j.rf  is currently offline j.rf
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Looking through some old posts, I suddenly realized I haven't heard much about the Cookbook for a while.

Any updates available ?
Re: Cookbook [message #2943 is a reply to message #2406 ] Sun, 13 December 2009 06:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
etali  is currently offline etali
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I'm curious about this too. Was it ever produced? If it's still in progress, do you need content?


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Re: Cookbook [message #2944 is a reply to message #2406 ] Sun, 13 December 2009 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lorna  is currently offline lorna
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YES we'd love content (I'm stealing the thunder of BinaryKitten, its her baby). The idea is to have *both* coding and food recipes in the book, we've got the funding we need to set up the printing costs so all we need now is some words to go in it! If anyone can come up with anything, it would be great to get the ball rolling Smile


Lorna Mitchell (online at http://www.lornajane.net)
Re: Cookbook [message #2956 is a reply to message #2406 ] Tue, 15 December 2009 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
etali  is currently offline etali
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Great! I'll try and put something together over the holiday season. I've never done a "recipe" before, so it'll probably be a tutorial on a simple concept, but it will be fun to try.


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Re: Cookbook [message #2957 is a reply to message #2956 ] Tue, 15 December 2009 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lorna  is currently offline lorna
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Excellent, I look forward to reading that Smile Hoping I'll find time over the break as well!


Lorna Mitchell (online at http://www.lornajane.net)
Re: Cookbook [message #3164 is a reply to message #2406 ] Sun, 06 June 2010 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BinaryKitten
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Hi everyone,

Sorry about the lack of information regarding the book. I'll outline the status and what is planning to happen and when we (I) hope to have this all done by.

The idea is to refine the topic of the book, make sure that we are on par for what should be a book of excellence for not only providing the content it does but also for the promotion of the group as a whole. The Book itself is a community project, so as a community we need to decide what direction we want it to take.

so on that note please can you reply with the answers to the following topic points:


  • Should we make it a "cookbook" - eg should it include both the PHP and culinary recipes?
  • Should we make sure there are pairs of recipes - one for PHP and 1 for culinary - like the cookies $_Cookie ... or should we just mix and match?
  • Should the title Mention PHP Women? This is a topic i've heard answers from both sides on and would like to get more opinions on calling the book "The PHP Women CookBook" and including culinary recipes maybe gives off the "wrong impression"
  • Does anyone know of anywhere where passing on the rights of publication to us for inclusion is not allowed under copyright law? If so, is there a legal way around it? Do we need a standard declaration for such, or can it be assumed so without legal issues. This is the biggest one as it will affect royalties which will be paid directly to the group.


So please can you reply to the above topics and then we can move on from there.

Once we have ironed out the plan forward, we shall be opening up a "call for papers" style request for content which will allow us to mix, match and collate the best concepts for the content of the book.

Any further questions, please do find me on IRC in the #phpwomen channel on Freenode or post a reply to the here.

Many Thanks, and again apologies for the delay in bringing this to completion.

Kat - BinaryKitten
Re: Cookbook [message #3166 is a reply to message #2406 ] Tue, 08 June 2010 05:55 Go to previous message
lineke  is currently offline lineke
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Hi Kat,

Here are my reactions to your questions:

1. I think it would be great to include culinary recipes. The original idea of flipping over the book for the recipes sounds great!
2. I don't think it's possible to create pairs of recipes, not for everything. It's nice if you can but i wouldn't stick to it through the whole book
3. There is something to say for both. If you include phpwomen in the title it might scare of some of the male members to contribute to the book (for content). However, the book will be made from the phpwomen community so it should definitely mention phpwomen. Why not work with a subtitle?
4. I don't know much about copyrights. How do (other) opensource projects handle that?

I'm looking forward to the CfP and the book. I might consider writing a piece, if i can find the time and a good topic.
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